Will Indy die in 'Indiana Jones 5'?

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Indiana Jones will be back, Steven Spielberg says.

Steven Spielberg didn't reveal too much about "Indiana Jones 5" in his lengthy interview with Entertainment Weekly, but fans and movie sites are digging out info anyway.

The director did tell the magazine in its Dec. 9 cover story that in 2008's "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull," he enjoyed bringing out Jones' family, but was not so much in favor of introducing aliens.

Spielberg insisted he was "really proud" of "Crystal Skull," despite having told a 30th-anniversary "Raiders of the Lost Ark" screening audience that he knew he burned bridges with that film.

"It's public that George [Lucas] and I and Harrison [Ford] all had a clash about genre and concept," Spielberg told the magazine. "But I've always told George's stories. ... I am best friends with George and I am very obedient to the stories he writes. I'll fight things I don't believe in but ultimately, if George wants to bring interdimensional beings into 'Crystal Skull,' I will do the best job I possibly can to acquit George's idea and make him proud.

Spielberg was asked about star Shia LaBeouf's criticisms of the film, but wouldn't comment. LaBeouf told the L.A. Times that he felt he as an actor "dropped the ball" on Jones' legacy, and "there was a reason" the film wasn't universally accepted.

There's still a chance to redeem Indy's legacy, however. "[Lucas and I] have already agreed on the genre of the fifth movie, we already have a concept in mind," Spielberg told EW. "There is no 'Indy 5' until George says there is."

Film blog Moviehole has a fun list of what's known about the fifth movie. Site editor Clint Morris tallies various reports and filmmaker comments and says in addition to no aliens, the film's unlikely to be set in the Bermuda Triangle (an early rumor), and that Lucas would like the film continuing on the same timeline, while Spielberg prefers the film would be a prequel to "Crystal Skull."  The site also says that despite his diss, Shia LaBeouf will likely return, and that despite another rumor to the contrary, Indy himself won't be killed off.

Will you see a fifth "Indiana Jones" movie? Did "Crystal Skull" live up to the character's legacy? Tell us in the comments.

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Of old age maybe.

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#1 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 2:11 PM EST

Isn't he immortal?

    #1.1 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 2:46 PM EST

    I was just thinking the same thing, he drank from the holy grail, granting him eternal life, same as Sr.

    I would love to see Sean Connery come out of retirement to resume his role as Henry Jones Sr.

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    #1.2 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 2:52 PM EST

    But didn't Henry Sr. die? I never saw crystal skull, but I read on the wiki or somewhere that there was a reference to that character being dead some time after The Last Crusade.

    I was under the impression you had to keep drinking from the Grail to be alive, and that the Grail couldn't cross that Seal, thus indirectly, to be immortal you had to stay in that temple with the Grail.

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    #1.3 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 3:09 PM EST

    Wasn't he immortal as long as he stayed in that cave? I thought once he left that was it for any immortality.

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    #1.4 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 3:40 PM EST

    That's what I thought. I thought you had to keep regularly drinking from the Grail to be immortal, but since it was lost, there was no way he could still be immortal.

      #1.5 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 3:46 PM EST

      In reading up a bit more it is said that he died about 2 years before Crystal Skull.

      They never specified in the movie and a line "your grandfather is laughing wherever he is" made me think maybe Sr. was lost on an adventure of his own and just hadn't come back yet.

        #1.6 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 3:47 PM EST

        Need a 5th move, gotta have Henry Jones III born so we can continue the franchise for the next generation.

        Premise of the 4th movie was pretty lame, but what do you expect from the guy who used teddy bears as heroes in the final Star Wars movie. Spielberg does need to redeem himself from that debacle. It'd be like Shatner going out of the Star Trek universe with "the voyage home" as his legacy.

          #1.7 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 3:54 PM EST

          Moheeheeko - If 5 is set after Crystal Skull there will be no Connery. Henry Sr. is dead.

            #1.8 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 4:05 PM EST

            @dirp101

            Wasn't Star Trek 4 one of the good ones? I thought the general rule was Star Trek evens = good, Star Trek odds = bad?

            • 4 votes
            #1.9 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 4:05 PM EST

            Henry Sr died prior to the Crystal Skull adventure as well as his friend Marcus. That's why Indy was looking with forlorn at his father's photo on his desk.

              #1.10 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 4:19 PM EST

              "It'd be like Shatner going out of the Star Trek universe with "the voyage home" as his legacy."

              If they had let us wonder what happened to him after that film, it would have made a far better ending than the death scene in "Generations". The film overall wasn't too bad, but that death scene was one of the worst of all time.

              Far better to die off screen than to die-with-pause-acting.

              As to Indiana Jones/Crystal Skull, the concept wasn't really too bad in my mind - however having so much screen time for Shia LeWhiner was. He actually can act rather well, but he's notorious for getting into fights off camera. He thinks he's a "big deal" and if people don't bow and grovel to him, he pulls out the attitude. It's bad enough when a fantastic actor like Russell Crowe pulls that crap, but when this guy does it, it really turns people off. He's really got far too big of a head, and until that changes I'd rather see an Indy 5 without LeWhiner.

                #1.11 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:08 AM EST

                chouse, Shatner will never die as he's still in the Nexus, just like Whoopi Goldberg's character being there while still on the Enterprise. They could have resurrected Kirk at any time if they chose, but after the latest rendition it doesn't matter as they've basically disintegrated the timeline.

                After my rump fell asleep watching Crystal Skull in the theater I don't know if I would give another Indy movie a chance, especially with LeBeef hamming it up. Only emotion he shows is confusion on the verge of tears.

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                #1.12 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 12:26 PM EST

                The metaphysics of the Nexus aside, the on screen shown death of Kirk was simply BAD. Sure one can argue that part of him lives on (horcrux?) for infinite time but one must remember the really really cheesy death scene. It would have made more sense for him to just fall to his death and show a bloody corpse once Picard got down there. That film had some of the coolest scenes ever (especially the ones with Data), and then Shatner Sharting on us. :D

                Yeah LeWhiner can go a good job if the director is strong, but not so much if the director is more about "flashiness" and can't instruct their actors... which is why he was really good in Holes, and not so much in the lolMichaelBay directed Transformers flicks. He wasn't terrible in Indy Jones 4, but his off camera antics cannot be separated from his on screen ones - so until he stops getting into fights I'd rather not see him in any major films. Until he realizes he's a kind of goofy looking guy who lucked into celebrity and stops pretending he's a gorgeous hunk (which he clearly isn't) I will pass, considering he likes to maul fans simply asking for autographs. Apparently he didn't realize that dealing with fans (nicely) comes along with the big paychecks...

                  #1.13 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 6:32 PM EST
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                  Shia Ladoosh ruined Crystal Skull. Please choose someone else.

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                  Reply#2 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 2:17 PM EST

                  You seen that episode of South Park which depicts what Spielberg and Lucas did to Indiana Jones? It's NSFW, but it's still very hilarious.

                  And yes Ladoosh ruins everything he is even remotely linked to.

                  Either way, true Indiana Jones movies have the Nazis as the bad guys.

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                  #2.1 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 3:12 PM EST

                  Shai Leboof was truly one of the worst casting choices in the history of movies. That's a fairly bold statement but for something this high profile more thought should have been put into it. It seemed they picked somebody to appeal to a younger audience. What they failed to understand is that Harrison Ford appealed to a young audience in Raiders even though he was well past his days of youthful abandon.

                  I will maintain that the PERFECT son of Indiana Jones would have been Nathan Fillion. The age difference makes it work, Nathon his a far better actor than Shai, he has the built in audience, and he also has a look to him that makes him at least LOOK like he could be a blood relative of Indiana Jones.

                  Now we will likely be doomed to Mutt Jones movies with Shai Laboof. I will never watch them.

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                  #2.2 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 3:44 PM EST

                  I hope that they do recast IJ III in the next movie - sorry - Shia just doesn't fit.

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                  #2.3 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 4:25 PM EST

                  I love Nathan Fillon, his comedic timing is top notch, and yes, he even looks like Harrison Ford a bit. Would have been a great casting choice.

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                  #2.4 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 5:09 PM EST
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                  After the complete DISASTER of the 4th movie, maybe Jones needs to die to save him from Lucas.

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                  Reply#3 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 2:21 PM EST

                  I had no issues whatsoever with Shia. George Lucas ruined Crystal Skull. It was poorly written. Remember him surviving a nuclear explosion in a refrigerator? That one element sealed the movie's ultimate fate.

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                  Reply#4 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 2:22 PM EST

                  Which is sad because it was at the beginning. That's a subject of much mocking for us as well.

                    #4.1 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 2:29 PM EST

                    I don't understand the problem some people have with the nuked fridge in Crystal Skull.

                    In the first movie we saw Indy travel hundreds of miles strapped to the periscope of a Nazi sub (It is presumed that this is what he did. We see the sub dive, and he couldn't just go inside unseen into the sub). In the second film, he jumps out of a crashing plane with Willie and Short Round in an inflating raft, skid easily down the side of a mountain to land unharmed in a river far below. I know he did something outrageous in the Last Crusade but I can't rememember off the top of my head. So, why would anybody have a problem with him surviving an atomic blast in a lead lined refrigerator? It's just another day in the life of Indiana Jones!

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                    #4.2 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 3:21 PM EST

                    With you there Bullwhip.

                    The other problem people have with "Skull" is the aliens. Really? The first three movies dealt with supernatural artifacts and beliefs but aliens are one step too far. I won't say that the film was as good as some of the others but it's deficiencies have more to do with wooden dialogue than anything. Much as I liked Karen Allen in the original, she was a bit stiff in the 4th outing.

                    What "Skull" did have was Indy doing what Indy does - staying one step ahead of the bad guys, working out a big puzzle and doing it all with a sideways grin. What's not to like?

                      #4.3 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 4:12 PM EST

                      What's not to like? Howzabout Lord LaBouf, King of the Apes? Yeesh.

                      Considering this was based on the cliff hangers of the 30's and 40's, very little in this film felt like a cliff hanger to me. I felt no tension in this film, no fear for the well being of its main characters. I never felt like I was on the edge of my seat. The opening temple sequence of Raiders, the mine cart-rope bridge sequence of Temple of Doom and the "three trials" sequence in the Last Crusade are good examples of what I'm talking about. The only thing that comes close to that is opening escape from Area 51 (I actually enjoyed him barely escaping the nuclear blast in a fridge) and that sequence doesn't hold a candle to those other sequences I mentioned from the prior films. Honestly, I felt the film was the most dull and uniteresting out of the four due to the structure and timing of the so-called action sequences.

                      Plus, Siafu? Cripes, they did bugs already in Temple of Doom. And Siafu are from Africa, not South America. What they should have had was Indy and the Russian fighting on one of those amphibious vehicles going down the river surrounded by pirhana. Killer fish would have been an original creepy-crawly and it would have been geographically accurate.

                        #4.4 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 5:15 PM EST

                        I dunno... after my grandma died, I had to clean out her refrigerator that looked like that and you'd be surprised what came out--and survived... good thing I had a shotgun handy! ;)

                          #4.5 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 6:26 PM EST

                          The problem with Crystal Skull isn't the fridge and it isn't the aliens. It just plain wasn't good. Everybody was just going through the motions.

                            #4.6 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 6:46 PM EST
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                            Shia LaBeouf can't act his way out of a paper bag. I hope he is replaced. Maybe George should let Steven have the lead in movie ideas for Indy 5. I also hope they don't kill off Indy. That would kill the franchise as far as I'm concerned, and I would not go see the movie if they did. I realize nobody stays dead in the movies, but Harrison Ford is getting a bit long in the tooth for a 6th movie revival.

                              Reply#5 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 2:31 PM EST

                              I don't know - I didn't see Crystal Skull.

                              Still, I think it's quite possible that the 5th movie could be good - and could be better than Crystal Skull.

                              After all, I thought the first and third movies were fantastic. The second? Uh, less than fantastic. I guess I didn't like the supporting characters... Short Round was a character who I could take or leave, more likely leave, and Wilhelmina Scott . . well, I think not having her character would've been a HUGE improvement right there.

                              Still, it had some interesting moments and interesting concepts, but wasn't that great. Maybe it really is the supporting characters that got to me... oh, and the trying-to-gross-you-out inaccuracies of Indian cuisine...

                              In any case, Last Crusade was an excellent film in my view.

                              So, the point of my long, rambling monologue is that, ultimately, I think the 5th movie CAN outdo the 4th, because the 3rd one DID outdo the 2nd.

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                              Reply#6 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 2:35 PM EST

                              You should block out an entire afternoon and watch Crystal Skull. The movie isn't that long to require an entire afternoon, but it seems twice as long as it actually is when you watch it.

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                              #6.1 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 12:35 PM EST
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                              If they make a 5th movie, I sure hope they do such a good job that it allows me to forgive them for the 4th. Don't care if it has Shia or not.

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                              Reply#7 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 2:36 PM EST

                              Indy CAN'T die...there was a 99-year-old version of him in THE YOUNG INDIANA JONES CHRONICLES.

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                              Reply#8 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 2:40 PM EST

                              No.

                                Reply#9 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 2:41 PM EST

                                Sure hope they somehow work Sean Connery into the new one.

                                  Reply#10 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 2:51 PM EST

                                  Sean Connery is retired and no longer making public appearances, let alone movies (rumors are he suffers from alzheimers).

                                    #10.1 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 3:44 PM EST

                                    Besides, Crystal Skull established that Henry Jones Sr. is dead.

                                      #10.2 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 4:14 PM EST

                                      Well Crystal Skull has been erased from my memory as it should be. It wouldn't be a terrible idea to bring Henry Jones Sr. back to life and explain the Crystal Skull as an acid trip. It's a shame that Sean Connery's last film was one that I have had to erase from my memory as well.

                                        #10.3 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:26 AM EST
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                                        Well, since Indiana Jones 4, Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, died at the box office --- why not?

                                          Reply#11 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 2:53 PM EST

                                          Look for the original script by Frank Darabont online. It was great. I printed out a copy of it. It still had the alien aspect, but the characters were much better written and there were way more locations including New York City. It would of been awesome to see if Lucas hadn't scrapped it.

                                            Reply#12 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 2:55 PM EST

                                            I thought he died in 4.

                                              Reply#13 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 3:01 PM EST

                                              I don't understand why everyone has an issue with "Crystal Skull". I thought it was pretty good. Yes the nuclear explosion and the refrigerator were a little far fetched (Which Spielberg took the blame for. That wasn't Lucas' idea.) but so was the heart rip out thing in "Temple of Doom" or the mine cart roller coaster thing in the same move. I also don't know why having aliens in a Indiana Jones movies is such a big deal. That is a hot topic right now. Did ancient aliens help early man build all those temples and what not? Not anymore far fetched than the ghosts coming out of the Ark of the Covenant or the knight living forever because he drank out of a wooden cup in "Last Crusade"

                                              • 2 votes
                                              Reply#14 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 3:02 PM EST

                                              I agree. What's so far fetched about extra terrestrials visiting South America thousands of years ago? If we can take ghosts coming out of the ark in IJ1, someone that can dig a heart out of a man's chest with a bare hand in IJ2, and a thousand year old knight in IJ3, then why not extra terrestrials in virtual suspended animation in IJ4? LOL

                                              Bring on IJ5 and let's enjoy the movie!

                                                Reply#15 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 3:26 PM EST

                                                I agree with most that Shia LaBeouf wasn't the right choice to be the "indie Junior". He doesn't seem to fit the part.

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                                                Reply#16 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 3:43 PM EST

                                                that series should have ended with the Last Crusade. Everything was wrapped up nice and tight there. it was by far the best of the series.

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                                                Reply#17 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 3:53 PM EST

                                                they have to redeem Jar Jar Binks sometime, maybe here ;)

                                                  Reply#18 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 4:10 PM EST

                                                  Spielberg whould watch the 2nd "Star Wars" trilogy and reconsider telling a Lucas story. If that fails to convince hem, how about "Howard The Duck". "American Graffitti" and the first "Star Wars" trilogy and the first 3 Indiana Jones flicks were a long time ago in a galaxy far away. Lucas seems to have lost his touch. Always remember, Han shot first.

                                                    Reply#19 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 4:28 PM EST

                                                    If they DO make IJ5, they need to forget CGI exists. CGI is the worst thing to happen to film-making and it was an awful part of IJ4. It was so completely unrealistic. I keep thinking of the boat going over the waterfall scene. It was so terribly fake that it made you remember that you were watching a movie. It tore me out of the fantasy world of the movie. There were many scenes in IJ4 where the CGI killed them. So, IMHO, don't let CGI touch IJ5.

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                                                    Reply#20 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 4:38 PM EST

                                                    The worst tragedy in film making was the death of Jim Henson. That man could create a realistic puppet. I'm glad I'm not the only one that doesn't think CGI is all that realistic. It's too cartoony. I was convinced that those Ninja Turtles in the live action movie were real life turtles.

                                                      #20.1 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:31 AM EST
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                                                      Will anyone care?

                                                        Reply#21 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 4:43 PM EST

                                                        Judging from the last Indy film, he is already dead.

                                                          Reply#22 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 4:51 PM EST

                                                          There is no one who cannot be resurrected from the dead in movie land.

                                                          I love the idea of Nathan Fillon being brought in. If he couldn't be Indy's son, he could always be a half-brother. He's such a great actor, great comedic timing, and looks somewhat like Harrison Ford. He can say more with a facial expression than any actor since.... well,..... Harrison Ford.

                                                          Looking forward to the movie.

                                                            #22.1 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 5:15 PM EST
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                                                            Personally, I thought the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was pretty good. Im excited about what the 5th one has in store...

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                                                            Reply#23 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 5:40 PM EST

                                                            Crystal Skull wasn't terrible, but it sucked in comparison to the other Indy movies. Shia LeBeouf is a whiny little runt. Whoever said Nathan Fillion should come on board is a friggin' genius - that would be outstanding casting of an extremely underrated actor. And there wasn't anything in Crystal Skull that officially said that Connery's character was "dead" - just "lost". He may still be alive - you never know. Bring back Karen Allen also.

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                                                            Reply#24 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 5:48 PM EST

                                                            If Spielberg gets his way and the fifth installment is a prequel then Shia LeBeouf cannot be in it - he was not introduced until Crystal Skull and his character was not know to Indy before then. (Wouldn't bother me a bit if LeBeouf is not around).

                                                              Reply#25 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 6:19 PM EST
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