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George "Mr. Sulu" Takei says the real enemy isn't
George Takei is boldly going where no one has gone before. Well, where no one has gone before and come out not torn to shreds by the legions of Twi-hards.
You see, not so long ago in a galaxy not so far away, a war broke out between two different but equally geeky enthusiastic factions, and the great "Star Wars" vs. "Star Trek" debate was born.
Refusing to let a good feud die, both William Shatner and Carrie Fisher have recently stoked the flames of that fire, and now the erstwhile Sulu has stepped up to put an end, once and for all, to the unending dispute.
By urging both sides to unite in their disdain for the "Twilight" series.
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"Fellow Star folks, cool it down and shut your big wormholes," implores Takei in a video uploaded to YouTube. "Each is wonderful in its own special way. What's needed today now more than ever is star peace, for there is an ominous, mutual threat to all science fiction. It's called 'Twilight' and it is really, really bad."
The fighting words didn't end there, and Takei went on to take down Kristen Stewart's brooding, Robert Pattinson's, well, sparkling, and—gasp!—even Taylor Lautner's shirt-eschewing.
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"Gone is any sense of heroism, camaraderie or epic battles. In its place, we have vampires that sparkle, moan and go to high school. Now, I'm not above mixing in a little sex appeal to spice up the fantasy, but sci-fi fans be warned, there are no great stories, characters or profound life lessons to be found in 'Twilight.' Nooo…In 'Twilight,' the only message that rings through loud and clear is: 'Does my boyfriend like me?'
"Let us band together to combat this mutual threat."
Uh, something tells us he may not be living so long or prosperously after "Twilight" fans catch wind of this.
Which series is the best and which the worst -- "Star Trek," "Star Wars," or "Twilight"? Tell us in the comments.
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Sulu is right twilght is just a bunch of tweeny crap served to the low IQ (50) teenys, but then there is also a sucker born every minute that will watch this BS and make some more morons of this country rich for serving up this dumbing down of america.
I think Sulu is just jealous, at least a bit. You see those wrinkles? Vampires don't have wrinkles.
Twilight takes anything that was cool about vampires and removes it to leave a rotting husk of nothing in its place.
Twilight was just a money grab after the success of Harry Potter.
Twilight: A Girl's Struggle To Choose Between Bestiality and Necrophilia.
Ruken: I bow to your genius.
Ruken, you should put that slogan on a T-Shirt and make a million bucks! How funny!
With George Takei's sci-fi fans and Stephen King's horror fans, we've confirmed that no matter what genre you could place Twilight into, the only ones who like the books are the ones that don't take them seriously, and the ones who don't have even a single shred of taste.
I like Twilight, but am not head over heels in love with it. Sorry, just wanted to basically post and say even though I like it I LOVE your comment Ruken. So true.
Just the background music alone makes me want to vomit!!!
Sadly, we live in a day where a movie like this is taken seriously, and Barnes and Noble IMMEDIATELY tosses several racks of useful books aside to make way for "teen paranormal romance" books (REALLY...NO FU%^ING JOKE!!!!).
I'm terrified for what the future holds!!
Takei is and always will be, THE MAN. This just further proves it.
George Takei, you da man!
C'mon Carrie, Bill, get on board with this and help George stop this before it's too late.
What next? TWILIGHT in 3D? Oh the horror!
Just loving George more every day. :-)
OOOOOOH myyyyy....
Yeah! Finally someone with some sense..............
Once and for all folks VAMPIRES DO NOT SPARKLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
seriously? Vampires aren't real, so if someone wrote that vampires sparkle they could-BECAUSE THEY ARE IMAGINARY! You can make up whatever you want about them!
Actually, vampires are historically metaphors for disease. Disease doesn't sparkle in real life or fiction.
vampires dont sparkle. Your thinking of fairies and pixies.
Dry Oatmeal *cough* *cough*
Well it is true that Sulu goes where most men have never gone before.
So is Twilight, so he knows what he's talking about.
Yep he's sending a flexible probe to Uranus.
Really, Commander? Probing Uranus...
LOL... George Takei cracks me up. I love both Star Wars and Star Trek, he has my support.
Here is a novel idea: If you can't say something NICE , DON'T say anything at all. Guess what? It is all Make-Believe! I LOVE Star Wars, Star Trek, Twilight, & the list goes on. So - here's the deal - if you like make believe then allow people to BELIEVE in the magic of movies. Just like the Magic of Christmas - Santa Claus, Elfs - what ever. I also LOVE Disney Movies... Toy Story, Monster's Inc. Ummmm Guess what - Toys Don't come to life either.
So the solution? STOP bad-mouthing "make-believe/movies" - especially as actors/actress - that is your job! Are you trying to make your job of make-believe obsolete?
Here's to Make Believe!
well done and said pleep. nothing more to be said.
onward and onward.
Oh, no, no, no! He has a legitimate argument, because Twilight alone has caused the IQs of teenage girls to drop at least 50 points. I have never read anything so poorly written, or seen movies so pathetically bad.
He's not bad-mouthing "make-believe/movies" as you say... he's mostly knocking the lack of character development and poor plot movement of the twilight movies.
You neglect to see the fact that the entire point of fiction is to convey morals in surrealistic scenarios. The entire point of surrealism is to grab the imagination of people who are tired of the common world. Instead, you have the same situation with lasers, starcraft, plasma, zombies, vampires, etc. By using these fundamental manipulations of the human imagination and attraction to new concepts, you can teach someone about heroism, the value of friendship, or the corruption that pure power offers. On the other hand, you can teach someone that your mormon beliefs mean that a woman's highest accomplishment is to be married. Yes, Stephanie Meyer is mormon. She's doing nothing more than perpetuating her own agenda and giving a good bit of the profits to the mormon church.
Here's an idea, you can take your holier than thou and 'dont say anything mean' philosophy and shove it up your ass. If someone thinks something sucks, the have a right, and they can, voice that opinion. And this is a case where PEOPLE ACTUALLY RESPECT his opinion. So please, shut the @!$%# up.
Aw come on. If Twilight were good it would be one thing but he's right. It's just bad and it perpetuates a bad stereotype to women. Love does not conquer all and the right man will not fix your life and make it perfect.
If we started leveling with women a bit people might have better relationships that last longer.
After we have this fixed we need to tackle the male myth that a playboy bunny is all he needs to be happy. I mean look how well it's worked for Hugh Hefner and Donald Trump. They are both loser a$$holes that no one but a gold digging twerp would even talk to.
Twilight has been the biggest hit to the Feminism movement since the chicken sandwich was invented.
Here is a missed point. Some people want to truly believe this is a reality. Movies are make believe and bad make believe is bad make believe.
Here is the cliff notes of Twilight, I Love You, I can't love you, but I love you, no I love You, let's be together forever because I love you, but he loves me too, I am confused, I think I will just get a dog.
Okay, so I obviously only saw the first one by accident and that was enough to turn me off from ever seeing the rest but I am also not an insecure teenage girl.
Here's another point: young girls get their ideas about relationships and social interaction from books and movies just as much as life. When a book and movie franchise is teaching girls that manipulation is the best way to get what you want, that psychological obsession is the same as love, and that a girl is better off dead than without a boyfriend, that's a major blow to a person's mental and emotional development. It paves the way for all kinds of abuse on both sides of the gender spectrum: these girls will take abuse because Twilight teaches that it's worth it, and quite normal; and they will be abusing others emotionally because they believe it's perfectly fine to use and mistreat those around them if it means they get whatever they want.
George is %100 right on this one.
You go Mr. Sulu! Slice them up with your mighty rapier!
The comments and pics he posts on his facebook wall are some of the funniest things on fb these days. He's hilarious! :-)
Takei's video looks rather scary, like he could be a henchman for the vampire in a certain Woody Allen short-story--a vampire who is a (literally) closeted old-fashioned slash-wearing coffin-dweller.
HUGE Twilight fan here - and I laughed my HEAD off! He is a riot - and spot on! I may adore the series, but I fully recognize its stupidity and vapidness, even as I join the masses of Twi-moms who ridiculously choose "Team-Whatever" and wear stupid t-shirts to the midnight showings of the movies! It's mindless entertainment and hot guys! What's so wrong with that?
I love both Star Wars and Star Trek, I love Twilight AND Harry Potter. Sure is fun watching fans of all of them get in a lather over their movies! LOL!
Well writ, Melanie. Some folks get wayyyyy to serious about this stuff, when it's just plain fun. I have enough serious in my Real Life - movies are escapism for me!!!
What's so wrong with it? Seriously? Let me ask you, if were a bunch of men in their 40's were clamoring at a midnight show for a cheerleader movie where the main actresses were hot girls in sexy clothes what would you say? Yup, that's what is wrong with "Twilight moms." If the roles were reversed, they would be appearing before a judge.
To be fair, Edward is like 90 or something. Lusting after a 16 year old.
....Wait.
You don't take it seriously, but the problem is, many teenagers do.
When did vampires become sci-fi material, I thought they were part of the fantasy genre? Seriously it's called escapism. No offense to Mr. Sulu but has he even seen the movies or read the books? A large number of negative reviews on IMDB clearly state they haven't even seen the movie but are leaving a negative review. I don't go on your gross comedy/sci-fi sites and create reviews for things I haven't seen and never plan on seeing. BTW, Star Wars rocks, I've never been able to get past 10 minutes of any Star Trek episodes/movies.
I don't recall any blood-sucking vampires in the episodes, but I do recall some major time-sucking ones.
Hey now there were Mudd's Women, which was highly suggestive with eye candy and female salt suckers which were exactly vampires, even with the succubus twist thrown in.
You can't find many tropes Star Trek didn't hit at some point, even in under three seasons.
He makes my day. Now, everyone should petition for Mr. Sulu to be the helsman on the USS Enterprize float at this year's Rose Bowl Parade http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/georgetakeiattherosebowlparade/
For a short old-fashioned vampire show ("old", what else would an Ascot wearing vampire be!) check out League of S.T.E.A.M.'s "Two For Dinner." http://www.leagueofsteam.com/theater/
The real test will be whether, 25-30 years from now, anyone remembers what Twilight was....
CB-NH - EXACTLY! It's been almost 50 years since Star Trek came out and 30+ years since Star Wars and they're both still going strong! Although I do like the Twilight movies, they won't even merit a footnote in another 10 years, much less 50!
Wouldst that it were so. Longevity is based on the size of the adolescent audience a movie or TV show draws before it becomes old enough to seem ridiculous. In 30 years, 43-year-old women will be nostalgic for the movies they saw during puberty/adolescence and champion them, not really recognizing that it's nostalgia for their teenage years, rather than a deep appreciation for under-appreciated artistic merit. Hormones make everything that happens feel bigger, stronger and more consequential, whether it's popular culture or puppy love. It's inevitable, but it's mostly harmless. Twilight will continue to haunt us (pardon) for decades to come.
i love sci-fi if it is well done. star trek, star wars were very well done. not much since then.
Trek (the original series) was / is Good V Evil on a human level - Trek (the movies that followed) is still Good V Evil but with lots of special effects - Wars, in much the same way is Good V Evil from the human level with the added dimension of the special effects - Trek paved the way for Wars - Both are valuable each in their seperate and unique ways - As for Twlight - as I've not watched even a nano second of any of the movies (couldn't pay me to do so) I'll accept Mr. Takei's word as truth and I'll agree with those posters who point out that Trek & Wars are sill going strong, decades after coming into the spotlight and that Twilight won't stand the test of time - Like Dark Shadows (the bad T.V. series in the 70's) before it. A classic is a classic for a reason. Either quality stories and/or quality acting - all special effects aside, it's the story line or the acting that will keep a movie / TV series in the public realm, period. We, the public will decide what we like, want to see, who we want to see - we, Vox Populi decide.
Dark Shadows is currently in production with Johnny Depp as Barnabus and Tim Burton directing. Due out in May 2012. Also have been many reboots over the years, keeps rising from the dead so to speak.
Enough....thanks for that post...Dark Shadows was my FAVORITE as a kid. Angelique used to scare me half to death. Wow.
And this doesn't have anything to do with anything, but I think it's time for a "Ghost and Mrs. Muir" remake.
I tried to watch Twilight and really did go into the 2nd movie with a open mind, but the movie was able to shut it really quick. Poor writing, poor acting and no amount of lipstick on that pig of a movie is making it any better. I hope more and more rail on it and many of the twit heads come around. All for guilty pleasures, but with all the great books and writers out there it just sucks that many won't get the light of day as twilight clones will be all the studios are looking for next. I want to watch bad acting and beautiful bodies will check out reruns of Victoria Secrets specials.
Who cares?? Come on, folks... To each his own. I like both, although I tend to watch Star Trek more often. Depends on the mood I'm in, and which heros I want to watch at the moment. Personally, I don't think Star Wars and Star Trek should even be compared - it's like trying to say apples are better than bananas. Personal taste is everthing, doesn't necessarily mean one is better than the other. And Twilight shouldn't even enter into this.... not even the same genre - and I LOVE Twilight. I know some folks hate it and think it worthless, but again I think there are worse vampire genres to criticise - like True Blood - which I view as vampire porn. (Blech!) However, some folks are die-hard fans of TB. Again, personal taste is everything, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Well hate the genesis of it, because True Blood was born because of Twilight.
Maybe the TV show, but the books predate Twilight by several years.
From the mouths of eleven 15-16 year old girls (at a sweet 16 party) "Twilight movies are painful to watch...poorly acted and stupid (eyes rolling)" "But Star Wars is still really cool!" There's your target audience talking...
Keep dreaming. Have you seen the numbers for Twilight?
Mr. Sulu is right - Twilight has no value and the acting is just bad. It's hard to argue between Satr Trek and Star Wars - they both are good versus evil and there are valuable lessons learned on the way. But Twilight is just junk - it's perfect for the mindless teens brought up on Disney where even kids in elementary school are focused on one thing - their relationships with kids of the opposite sex (and singing/dancing). Look, the books probably make more sense because your imagination is way more powerfull than the idiots making these movies. Twilight will be over soon and there will be another stupid bit of entertainment to torture us with (as if the Kharasians aren't enough).
It's a generational thing. Having been around for all three, Trek is an order of magnitude more sophisticated than Star Wars which is likewise an order of magnitude more sophisticated than Twilight. They're all fun, though. And I used to go to Rocky Horror midnight shows to throw things...and I even used to watch Dark Shadows as a kid (dating myself).
These days there is so much more stuff out there that the quality suffers. Also, Hollywood is not interested in anything without a prebuilt audience. Most of the great sci fi movies that are now being remade are awful, except the CGI sure is sweet.
I'm with the AZ lady, basically. My "educated" friends wailed and ghashed their teeth over the Potter books, but they got kids to read, at least. And hey, I would rather date a woman who reads Harlequins than one who watches teevee.
I mean the whole reason we geeks invented fantasy in the first place was to........broaden our audience.
Pun intended.
Star Trek and Star Wars aren't really comparable. Honestly.
Star Trek is pure Science Fiction. Star Wars is Fantasy in space. Very little about Star wars focuses on actual science. It focuses primarily on a fantasy setting with fantastical things. There just happens to be space involved. What is the science of Star Wars? They're in space? Everything else is basically centered around the force. Thus, pretty much fantasy.
That said, Twilight is awful. I completely agree with my hero, George Takei. Those in my home affectionately refer to the main character as "Pants" because she's so shallow of a character any girl can put her on and walk around in her skin. If I met Stephanie Myers in person I'd be tempted to break her hands so she could never create such drivel again. It's very poorly written and has really destroyed the fantasy of Vampires. Somewhere poor Bram Stoker is rolling in his coffin. Christ, up until the 3rd/4th book of the vampire chronicles Anne Rice didn't destroyed so much vampire lore for the sake of tween girls and disturbed women everywhere as Twilight has.
Now that one is funny as heck...made me immediately think of the Travelling Pants of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood.
Hey, don't break Stephenie's hands - I have the right to read as much drivel as I want. If you don't like Twilight - don't read it. If you don't want your kids to read it or watch the movies, don't let them. Nobody is forcing anybody to read these books or go watch the movies. I can't stand Stephen King, and my very best friend (of 46 years) has every book he's ever written. I don't get it -- but she has a right to read them, dream about them, and go watch movies based on them it if that's what she enjoys. I deserve the same regarding the movies and books that I love.